Thank you for the citations, and the links. A bit confused by what you're saying about the Austral-Romanian beat(s), though. It was a rhythm - or a family of rhythms - that was used internationally including by several Korean groups on several songs that leaned towards novelty, but wasn't remotely close to being *defining* for K-pop in 2012 (or for Puerto Rico in 2011 or Poland in 2010, etc.). No rhythm was defining for K-pop. I'd say the one with the biggest impact specific to 2012 was Koreans running variants on "Party Rock Anthem," esp. Psy with "Gangnam Style." But again, like no-speak-americano, it stood out because it *wasn't* ubiquitous.
In my Austral-Romanian write-up I actually start the Austral "No Speak Americano" end of the supposed continuum *not* with "We No Speak Americano" but with In-Grid's "Tu Es Foutu" from Italy (and therefore in French and set on the French Riviera) from back in 2001, which abcfsk had clued me into as an early progenitor of the no-speak-americano rhythm. It was a big hit in a bunch of European countries (incl. Romania) in 2002 and 2003, and in Australia and New Zealand in a cleaner English-language version "You Promised Me" in 2003, also making the U.S. dance chart. I mention this in passing, too quickly, in my write-up, via only a couple of links, but (and I'm sure this was abcfsk cluing me in again) In-Grid had done a variant on "Tu Es Foutu" in 2005, calling the new song "One More Time" - which K-pop group Jewelry covered in 2008, Jewelry's version hitting number one on a couple of the Korean TV performance shows (I don't think there was a Gaon chart yet), this version produced by none other than Shinsadong Tiger!
I think that was just a sloppy edit on my part, ending with me chucking stuff in a footnote -- when I said "following" I originally meant "I have created a phrase in the style of Austral/Romanian Empire" not "one style following the other" (either chronologically or in terms of importance/impact). I kept trying to make the blurb work with the phrase London/Atlanta Empire but it seemed not quite right.
Perhaps MC Thammy could be your third member of the Triumvirate - need someone from Recife (or near Recife, I don't know exactly) who nonetheless has worked with Pipokinha and doesn't limit herself to Brega Funk. Not that Recife reminds me of Long Island (or Thammy reminds me of Lindsay; but then MC Pipokinha doesn't remind me of Britney either, and I know even less about Bibi Babydoll) - maybe Recife is San Antonio on the sea? ('Cause of its access to regional rhythms.)
Thank you for the citations, and the links. A bit confused by what you're saying about the Austral-Romanian beat(s), though. It was a rhythm - or a family of rhythms - that was used internationally including by several Korean groups on several songs that leaned towards novelty, but wasn't remotely close to being *defining* for K-pop in 2012 (or for Puerto Rico in 2011 or Poland in 2010, etc.). No rhythm was defining for K-pop. I'd say the one with the biggest impact specific to 2012 was Koreans running variants on "Party Rock Anthem," esp. Psy with "Gangnam Style." But again, like no-speak-americano, it stood out because it *wasn't* ubiquitous.
In my Austral-Romanian write-up I actually start the Austral "No Speak Americano" end of the supposed continuum *not* with "We No Speak Americano" but with In-Grid's "Tu Es Foutu" from Italy (and therefore in French and set on the French Riviera) from back in 2001, which abcfsk had clued me into as an early progenitor of the no-speak-americano rhythm. It was a big hit in a bunch of European countries (incl. Romania) in 2002 and 2003, and in Australia and New Zealand in a cleaner English-language version "You Promised Me" in 2003, also making the U.S. dance chart. I mention this in passing, too quickly, in my write-up, via only a couple of links, but (and I'm sure this was abcfsk cluing me in again) In-Grid had done a variant on "Tu Es Foutu" in 2005, calling the new song "One More Time" - which K-pop group Jewelry covered in 2008, Jewelry's version hitting number one on a couple of the Korean TV performance shows (I don't think there was a Gaon chart yet), this version produced by none other than Shinsadong Tiger!
I think that was just a sloppy edit on my part, ending with me chucking stuff in a footnote -- when I said "following" I originally meant "I have created a phrase in the style of Austral/Romanian Empire" not "one style following the other" (either chronologically or in terms of importance/impact). I kept trying to make the blurb work with the phrase London/Atlanta Empire but it seemed not quite right.
Perhaps MC Thammy could be your third member of the Triumvirate - need someone from Recife (or near Recife, I don't know exactly) who nonetheless has worked with Pipokinha and doesn't limit herself to Brega Funk. Not that Recife reminds me of Long Island (or Thammy reminds me of Lindsay; but then MC Pipokinha doesn't remind me of Britney either, and I know even less about Bibi Babydoll) - maybe Recife is San Antonio on the sea? ('Cause of its access to regional rhythms.)